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john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for the tom harkin seat. is harkin retiring? we don't know for sure. that's been the long assumption. big opportunity for republicans midterm. iowa on top of the ticket. >> abs lieuly. >> already we know that there's going to be a real republican primary. mitch mcconnell and john corbin basically went about this in a placate the base, contindon't, know, disrupt this. and it failed. now, they're not getting blame and i'm surprised. >> here's the deal. in 2010 they did get involved in a lot of places. >> they tried. >> they tried. most
john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for...
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but after the election, speaker boehner and now that the american people have spoken, speaker boehner has more weight behind him to say to his caucus, folks, get in line. >> in last night's interview the speaker talked about obama care. i want to remind everybody what he had to say about that. >> the alexeis that. the the president is reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care? >> there may be parts of it that we believe need e to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> okay. obama care is the law of the land. maybe parts of it could be changed. it seems very conciliatory. but almost immediately, the speaker sent out a tweet saying that the goal is and will remain full repeal. and there it is. obama care is the law of the land but it's threatening jobs. our goal will remain full repeal. is the speaker talking out of both sides of his mouth. he's either lying to diane sawyer or to everybody on twit per. >> the goal is full repeal. at the end of the day, given the fact the president has bee
but after the election, speaker boehner and now that the american people have spoken, speaker boehner has more weight behind him to say to his caucus, folks, get in line. >> in last night's interview the speaker talked about obama care. i want to remind everybody what he had to say about that. >> the alexeis that. the the president is reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care? >> there may be...
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boehner, speaker boehner? >> well, i take -- you know, you can flip around what andrea said and turn it on its head. it's a huge challenge but also a huge opportunity. we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost in a very practical way, if he had lost, the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare. so his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble, right? instead, it's now up there on the mantel as a great trophy, the great democratic achievement of his first term. you know, him getting re-elected makes the stimulus okay. >> not just of his first term, i mean, that's the great democratic achievement of the last generation. >> yeah, absolutely. so he's got that now, right? and he's now had his vision of having saved the country from the second great depression, ratifying. now he turns to the second term, and he has this opportunity to deal with fiscal cliff. it's a huge problem. if he fails, it could destroy his second term. but if he achieve
boehner, speaker boehner? >> well, i take -- you know, you can flip around what andrea said and turn it on its head. it's a huge challenge but also a huge opportunity. we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost in a very practical way, if he had lost, the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare. so his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble, right? instead, it's now up there on the mantel as a great trophy, the...
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listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president has talked about tax reform, his acceptance speech. i don't expect him to get into details of how he'll do that. the key is the tone as andrew was saying, people confidence is very important here, es special lir to the markets, the economy, the president to come out and say we won here's the mandate you take this, take our conditions or you'll bear it on your head if a recession happens, that i think is not what the markets want to see. >> and andrew ross sorkin, as we wait for the president to walk in, what -- we see now is that the gang of eight have been meeting. you've had bob corker and others participat
listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president...
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you have a group whether it's mcconnell actually much more explicit than boehner in the senate, or boehner saying we can play around with the tax code to increase revenues but not increase rates. those are pretty unkwif cal lines. the realm of agreement between medicare, defense, et cetera is a widely shared realm. that line in the sand -- when you think from wall street and a business perspective seems far too bright given somebody has to pull back from the brink. >> you're saying that their sides are to distinct -- >> on this one issue. they drew a clear line about an issue is revenue inconsequenceal. you don't get to this by raising taxes on the wealthy. we have made this an issue. >> the president made it an issue. >> in our exit polling where he has the aagreement of people. not necessarily popular because most people would like to see no one's taxes go up but 46% or about said they want it or would be in agreement with meem who make over 250,000. >> the polls aren't important -- what's important is he won a huge election. does that give him a mandate to do everything he ever said? of
you have a group whether it's mcconnell actually much more explicit than boehner in the senate, or boehner saying we can play around with the tax code to increase revenues but not increase rates. those are pretty unkwif cal lines. the realm of agreement between medicare, defense, et cetera is a widely shared realm. that line in the sand -- when you think from wall street and a business perspective seems far too bright given somebody has to pull back from the brink. >> you're saying that...
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this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner walked back his answer on twitter. obama care is the law of the land, but it's raising costs and hurting small businesses. our goal remains full repeat? it looks like he's scared of the tea partiers in the caucus. president obama was close to persuade ing him on a grand bargain before boehner buckled. i guess you could say this time around they don't need boehner. they hold not all the carts, but more cards, and the middle eastern people are clearly behind this president, they elected a more progress i have senate. senator patty murray, who led the democratic senatori
this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner...
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house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> last night, he revealed to diane sawyer that his party was no longer seeking to repeal the affordable care act. >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care. >> there may be parts of it that we believe need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> but hours after that interview, boehner shrouded himself once again tweeting, obama care is law of the land but it is raising costs and threatening jobs. our goal has been and will remain #full
house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone...
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what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we know that failed because what happened after we tried that last time was jobs went down and the deficit went up. so i think the speaker shoumd do what he says that he wants to do. put this out in public. the president has put his plan in public. it was a central part of the debate. saying that folks at the higher end should pay more to reduce our deficit because if we don't ask them to chip in more, it means everybody else gets hit harder. >> you heard what he said. we're not going to raise taxes on small business. and for republicans,
what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we...
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you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's going to get a lot of flack from both his own left flank and the right. he has to accept that.
you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in a little bubble next to the man's name on a piece of paper is technically how we endorse a person in america. mr. mcconnell does not see it that way. on the political wire the romney's campaign would have could have should have transition website today. surely, this was not supposed to go live until mr. romney actually won the election. the campaign did not wait. they presumably accidentally put it up, a transition website for president-elect romney, how to apply for a job with the new romney administration. looks like because they screen shot it before they finally
john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in...
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>> i think boehner is in a tough spot. he gets that but he has a caucus that doesn't want to pass any tax increase. i think he's also a smart enough politician to know that it looks real bad after a while to say, i'm not going to extend it for middle income people because i'm just holding out for the rich. and, you know, boehner is a lot of things but one of the things he is is basically a smart politician. i think he knows that's a bad position but he's got a caucus that's not going to make it easy for him. >> and krystal, you have people saying don't deal with him. paul krugman is saying, let's not make a deal. but at some point, he, being boehner, it's hard to sell that we're not going to give a tax cut to the middle class unless the rich gets it, too? isn't he running up against a political clock here? >> yes, it's a very tough position. voters went to the polls and said they don't buy that position and as e.j. pointed out, the president has tons of leverage here because if nothing happens, all of the bush tax cuts exp
>> i think boehner is in a tough spot. he gets that but he has a caucus that doesn't want to pass any tax increase. i think he's also a smart enough politician to know that it looks real bad after a while to say, i'm not going to extend it for middle income people because i'm just holding out for the rich. and, you know, boehner is a lot of things but one of the things he is is basically a smart politician. i think he knows that's a bad position but he's got a caucus that's not going to...
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house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear -- >> to have the wealthier americans pitch in. >> -- that raising tax rates is unacceptable. frankly, it couldn't pass the house. >> you will talk about it even if it's the wrong approach. >> of course we'll talk about it. we'll talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> speaker boehner sounded ready to pull b
house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes...
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thank you. >> great to see you. >> i always root for boehner to do the right thing. >>> dirty, angry money. or should we say wasted money? the dog that didn't bark this election. what did the sheldon adelsons get for their hundreds of millions of dollars in tv advertising? >>> here is a tweet from alec baldwin. it's been making the rounds -- you know your party is in trouble when people ask did the rape guy win and you have to ask which one. the notorious comments didn't merely embarrass republicans, exposed them. it shows too many of them think like they do. anyway, that will kill that will cost them the white house again and again and a lot of senate seats this time and next time. >>> now that president obama has won re-election and can't become a one-term president, is there any chance republicans will actually accept him as their president and try to work with him instead of just rejecting him wholesale? >>> let me finish with my hope the president, his party, and the party can get down and do some dealmaking for the country. this is "hardball," the place for politics. you can pr
thank you. >> great to see you. >> i always root for boehner to do the right thing. >>> dirty, angry money. or should we say wasted money? the dog that didn't bark this election. what did the sheldon adelsons get for their hundreds of millions of dollars in tv advertising? >>> here is a tweet from alec baldwin. it's been making the rounds -- you know your party is in trouble when people ask did the rape guy win and you have to ask which one. the notorious comments...
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while the balance of power may have stayed the same in washington, when you listen to speaker boehner's words on election night, you listen to harry reid, listen to the president, clearly there was a message sent from the american public. you better get your act together, extend the olive branch, and start negotiating because our economy depends on it. >> for anyone out there who
while the balance of power may have stayed the same in washington, when you listen to speaker boehner's words on election night, you listen to harry reid, listen to the president, clearly there was a message sent from the american public. you better get your act together, extend the olive branch, and start negotiating because our economy depends on it. >> for anyone out there who
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while the balance of power may have stayed the same in washington, when you listen to speaker boehner's words on election night, you listen to harry reid, listen to the
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poor john boehner who has the worst job is forced to do this fan dance. the day after the election is intimate that is they can come to the table and strike a bargain but has to shuffle back and keep him in the house and whipped by the gop which is to say say, chastised that this may be tax increased i am of the mibd that there is a big conversation as to where they go from here. and i have a hope that they understand if they are going to survive past 2016 they need to make serious changes not just in terms of having a brown person on stage but really a cultural shift within the party and that includes being able to bargain and putting a plan on the table. >> it couldn't have gotten worse in january there will be more democratic members of the house of representatives. i don't see any reason for the president and the democrats not to wait until january op n doing anything on this. i'm with you 1,000 percent on the off the cliff strategy. we have to get chris an off the cliff button >> here are two things that i would say. it is very interesting. fiscal cl
poor john boehner who has the worst job is forced to do this fan dance. the day after the election is intimate that is they can come to the table and strike a bargain but has to shuffle back and keep him in the house and whipped by the gop which is to say say, chastised that this may be tax increased i am of the mibd that there is a big conversation as to where they go from here. and i have a hope that they understand if they are going to survive past 2016 they need to make serious changes not...
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. >>> last night house speaker john boehner -- also, he's not backing off his stand on tax hikes. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly it couldn't even pass the house. >> at issue here is this perfect economic storm that could have serious consequences. nbc's andrea mitchell breaks it dun for you. >> reporter: the campaign was tough. victory is sweet. now comes the hard part. >> on january 1st, 2013, there's going to be a massive fiscal cliff of large spending cuts and tax increases. >> reporter: so what exactly is the fiscal cliff? it's night mare combination of tax hikes and spending cuts the president agreed to to force themselves into a compromise. so far, they haven't agreed on anything. so barring a last-minute fix at the stroke of midnight on new year's eve, the bush tax cuts expeer. the alternative minimum tax kicks in. more than half of all married couples with two children would owe an additional $4,000
. >>> last night house speaker john boehner -- also, he's not backing off his stand on tax hikes. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly it couldn't even pass the house. >> at issue here is this perfect economic storm that could have serious consequences. nbc's andrea mitchell breaks it dun for...
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does speaker boehner remain faithful to grover norquist or does he respond to the american people? >> the answer is the former. grover norquist is the actual head of the republican party, so they will continue this two decade thing of we don't raise taxes for any reason at all no matter what. even when the american people speak and say we want that balanced approach that the president wants. >> even when 60% of the people came out of exit polls sand said we believe that taxes should be raised on the most wealthy. >> yes, yes. the party was tarred as the party of the wealthy. that's a large reason why they lost, and yet they come back and they say, we're going to defend the right of the top 2% to not have to pay more. do they want to lose again in 2016 and 2020? i think they do because they don't want to change. the principles of the party are not in trouble. that is absolutely wrong. >> karen, mitch mcconnell, who hasn't been seen since tuesday's be election, issued this statement. he says, i wasn't sent to washington to raise anybody's taxes to pay for more wasteful spending, and
does speaker boehner remain faithful to grover norquist or does he respond to the american people? >> the answer is the former. grover norquist is the actual head of the republican party, so they will continue this two decade thing of we don't raise taxes for any reason at all no matter what. even when the american people speak and say we want that balanced approach that the president wants. >> even when 60% of the people came out of exit polls sand said we believe that taxes should...